Drivers: Treat cyclists like cars and we'll all get along fine...

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You should also put

You should also put "cyclists obey the rules like cars". Just now I saw a cyclist went through a red light because there were no incoming cars. And another one just went zooming to the right without stopping (its red light), he almost hit a pedestrian.

Posted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 - 5:11pm
Sure, with some exceptions.

Sure, with some exceptions. I'm a fan of the idaho law school of thought:
http://www3.state.id.us/cgi-bin/newidst?sctid=490070020.K
Basically, for bikes, everything is a step down. stop lights become stop signs, stop signs become yield signs, etc.

1. efficiency. when you've got the horsepower of a hairdryer, stopping at all stop signs when no one is there increases your energy output by 40% or so.
2. visibility on a bike, i can see in all directions, and over most cars/obstacles. I CAN clear an intersection for safely crossing while rolling toward it, because I'm not encased in steel.
3. it hurts no one but me. (i'm obviously not speaking to your 'hitting a pedestrian' example, that is of course wrong) I can't do any damage with my bike or generally speaking, injure anyone but me. Riding with self preservation as my prime directive doesn't do any harm to anyone else, and probably.. 80% of the time, it's in line with the law.

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Posted by aaron on Thu, 10/09/2008 - 9:53pm
Absolutely

2 things:

1) That drives me crazy when I'm on a bike as well, and you have elucidated it better than I ever have: it's a problem of trust. Any deviation from the normal routine requires trust, and trust is not something you should be doing on the road.

2) It's just as irritating for me driving here in Japan, because everyone just makes rules up all the time. The US roads and their enforcement of very logical rules that enhance traffic flow and help avoid accidents should be a source of national pride. Our licensure training is largely a focus on rules and learning not to think while driving. Just follow the rules and everything will be fine. Here, training is a bunch of nonsense about steering and how to squeeze giant saloon cars through S curves. But you get out on the road and it's idiots waving their hands and honking their horns and turning into the far lane (actually, that's a rule here--you always go into the left lane, even if it's a multi-lane road!!! --If everyone followed that rule, there'd be a line from either side of the intersection to get into the left lane). When there's an accident, it's not a simple question of "Who broke the rule?"; it's a question of what percent of the blame goes where, regardless of who broke the rule.

Traffic rules are good. Really, really good. Let's all use them. All the time.

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Posted by Batty on Wed, 05/07/2008 - 11:08pm